THE SAVAGE NATION

00:06 And now, the world's most exciting podcast, The Savage Nation, home of borders, language, culture. Here he is, Michael Savage. 00:17 I've got to find out something here. I meet people. I know a few people I talk to. Some of them are very successful, and they're all very depressed over the political landscape. They despise the Clintons. They know who they are. They know just what's coming to America, if she should win. Then they look on the other side and they see craven frauds who would rather speak to, well, anybody, virtually a coffee shop, than them. 00:44 And they say, how in the world can this country survive when it's estimated by some very, very fine journalists that about 130 million Muslims are the fanatics of 1.3 billion Muslims on the planet. The estimate is 1%, and I think that's a rather low number, but let's take 1%. So 130 million Muslims... 01:03 are fanatics who believe in jihad. They live in the ethers of the Internet space where they talk about taking over the world, introducing the retrograde Sharia law and killing anybody who doesn't inform to Islam. And we read garbage about one with the baby. It makes no sense. 01:23 They don't know how to make sense out of all of this. 01:27 So I, for six months on my website, michaelsavage.com, have had a question. It's a simple question. It's been up six months. It says this. It asks a question. I can't even find it. On my own website, here it is. 01:43 We passed the 20 million vote mark. Will Giuliani, McKennedy, and Romney agree to meet the savage nation? You know the answer to that. 01:49 The answer is, of course not, because they're frauds. 01:52 So we go to the savage web poll. And the web poll is very simple. Should Michael Savage quit radio and run for the presidency? View results. You can't vote more than once. 20 million, 659,000 have voted. 02:07 20 million of you have said I should quit radio and run for the presidency. 02:10 So I did this sort of as a lark originally. But now I'm starting to get agitated and I'm starting to think, what if just what if I did this? 02:22 And I started to say to myself, well, let's run the scenario. So let's start with the comedy running through my head. 02:27 The comedy is I'm president of the United States and my first state dinner, instead of a boring, dumb poached salmon and Chardonnay from British Columbia, I invite some of my friends from North Beach who own Italian restaurants and I put on a Sicilian meal for the first state dinner. The second state dinner is a a mandarin chinese dinner from friends i know in the chinese restaurant business and i say i might liven up the presidency if i became president just that unto itself would be better than what we have now or what we'd get under the clintons again i mean if you like arkansas catfish that's what you're going to get again mentally physically and culinary wise you're going to get arkansas catfish of the lowest variety from the bottom of the drain swamp i would never campaign i'm thinking to myself because i don't like traveling So how could you how could you even think of being the president if you don't like traveling? 03:23 Well, I figure if you're the most important man in the world, they'll come to you. What do I have to go to them for? 03:29 So I wouldn't have to travel to campaign if I'm not going to travel as the president. Why would I want to travel to campaign? 03:34 And since I'm an outsider with absolutely no relationship at all to the media, they all despise me. They pretend I don't exist, but I know most of them listen to me. And the political structure makes believe I don't exist, but I know they all listen to me. 03:48 They have to listen to me. How could they not listen to a show that has 20 million people listen to it a week, 10 to 20 million people? Who are they fooling? They may make believe they don't listen, but I know they listen. 04:00 Because insight is very rare in this world. Intelligence is very rare in this world. 04:05 And independence is even rarer. So they say, all right, let's listen to what he has to say today about X, Y, and Z. Let's see which way the wind is blowing the savage nation. 04:14 So having said that, here's the first question of the day. 04:18 Question, how would the media attack me? 04:22 What would they throw at me when they came to see me? Because I wouldn't go to them. Let's say I have to do the interviews. They're going to come to me. I wouldn't go to them. 04:32 I'm telling you right now. 04:34 The mountain is going to come to Muhammad. The Muhammad's not going to go to the mountain. The mountain's going to come to Muhammad. If I ever ran, I wouldn't leave my location. They're going to have to come to me. I might make them walk around with me on the waterfront. 04:48 I might make them go out with me on a boat. I might make them walk up a hill with me if they want to interview me with my dog. I don't know, but I'm not going to do it their way. They're going to do it my way, or they're not going to get to ask me the hard questions. And what do you think they'd ask me? Tell me the worst thing. I want you to take the role of the left-wing media, which is the media, period. 05:08 And I want you to tell me what you think one of these left-wing psychotic pothead perverts would ask me to try to embarrass me, and I'll answer you. 05:18 And I also want you to call me today and answer the question. The real question I want to ask is you to call on. I don't want to take anything else right now. I will talk about dengue fever. I will talk about all the news stories that I have found over the week. And trust me, I will do that when I'm ready for it. I'm not ready for it. I'm pondering, leaving radio, running for the presidency. OK, it's a fantasy right now because I'm not going to ignore 20 million people on my Web site. And I want to know. 05:45 What you think the vermin in the media would ask me, let's say Larry King is forced to get off his throne and interview me. First rule would be you can't take garlic for five days before interviewing him because he can't stand the stink coming out of your mouth. 06:00 And so if you want to interview him, no garlic for five weeks. 06:05 If 60 minutes interviewed me, I guess everyone has to do 60 minutes. So the rule is no clock, no ticking clock. I don't like the sound of a ticking clock. So I'm going to take all of my quirks and apply it to them. They have to sign a release. But more seriously, what would they ask me? I want to hear how the smartest left wing vermin, the real smart ones, they're so smart. I want to know what they'd ask me that I couldn't answer. You're going to be them. 06:30 You're going to be them. 06:32 You're the media. What questions are you going to pretend they were? What do you think they would ask me to try to upset the Apple car to try to make me look like what I'm not? Because remember what my message would be. If I raised 50 million dollars, my message would be borders, language, culture, period. End of story. Borders, language, culture. You want to hear what that means? Close the borders, militarize the Mexican border and the Canadian border. Take our troops out of Korea and Germany and put the troops from Korea on the southern border and put the troops from Germany on the northern border. 07:07 Put them to use instead of wasting our time with an invasion from the North Pole. That's never going to happen. 07:14 And language. The official language of America is English. No press one for English. Press nothing if you can't speak English. Go back where you came from. Learn the language of the land. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When in America, speak of the English. Or don't speak at all. Stay home and talk it to your relatives. Don't come out into the workplace and expect the world to speak your language. Speak the language of the land. The language that is the document of the land. And that's the land you came to, so you should respect it. 07:46 Borders, language, culture. When I come back, I will tell you what the culture is. 07:49 Savage. 07:51 Michael Savage. A host like no other. 07:54 Let me tell you what's happening while the legacy media sleeps. This could be the biggest story of the decade. And yet, you're not going to hear about it from the traditional talking heads. China just shut down paper gold trading at four of its biggest banks. 08:10 Same move, same day. And they're building new vaults, 10 times bigger for guess what? Physical gold, real metal. Now here's the numbers that should keep you up at night. China's trade surplus, about $1.2 trillion a year. That's their trade surplus, $1.2 trillion a year. Their gold imports about 940 tons a year. 08:35 Divide one by the other and you get what gold would have to be worth if China ever pays its bills in gold instead of dollars. You know what it would be? $38,000 an ounce. $38,000 an ounce. Simple math. 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You're going to get the free report called The Day Money Changes Forever. You're going to talk to a real U.S.-based specialist who will walk you through it for free. No pressure. Believe me. Please call 855-GOLD-09. That's 855-GOLD-09. Or visit GetSavageGold.com. 10:15 So the first state dinner wouldn't be Chardonnay from British Columbia and poached salmon and sorbet. It would be pasta pustanesca to symbolize what I think of the diplomats and the others attending the dinner. That would be day one. And I'd let them figure out why. 10:33 You know, last week we had a guy who looked like a... 10:37 The pimp from Persia, I called him. He comes here. He tells us that the Iranians are superior. 10:43 Islam is the only religion and you're going to convert or die. 10:47 And the media now supports the man in a strange way. They tell us we should listen to a contrary opinion. In other words, Hitler's Hitler comes 1939. We should listen to what Hitler says. 10:58 They've learned nothing from history, these dodos. These dodos, they're dodos. Why wouldn't we listen to him? Why listen to him? He's already told us what he is and what he means. You know, this guy looked like the kind of guy who used to sell dirty pictures down in the river Seine in Paris in the 1950s. The president of Iran looked like the kind of guy who sold dirty postcards in Paris or the kind of guy who, let's say, was a pimp in the sixth arrondissement in the 1960s. And we're supposed to afford him respect? 11:27 Are you crazy? I wouldn't never let him in the country. So let's go to the callers. Greg, you're the media. Go for the next question. 11:35 Yeah, I guess I would try to corner you and say you represent a small minority of people across this country, right-wing fanatics. Why are you so against immigration when the system's working so well and everybody's getting along now? 11:51 Well, you've just stated two points. One is an attack and one is a question. So which would you like answered? 11:58 Probably the attack first. 12:00 Well, then repeat the attack in a more cogent fashion so I can answer it. 12:06 Mr. Savage, you represent a very small, fringe minority. 12:10 Wait a minute. So you're saying 20 million Americans don't matter? Is that what you're saying? 12:15 As a liberal news reporter, absolutely. 12:18 You're saying 20 million Americans don't count. How many illegal aliens are there in America? Isn't the number about 20 million? Why do they count when the core base of the conservative party doesn't count? Can you answer that one, Mr. Media Guy? 12:30 Well, because big corporations, we need to work. 12:32 Well, wait a minute. You posed the question. You're making believe you're them. You're saying I represent a small minority. So the number is 20 million, let's say. It's probably 30 million. If you don't take the radio audience per se, but what my viewpoint, my viewpoints probably represent that of 30 million Americans. I would admit that. 30 million Americans who know what's going on probably would agree with me on everything. 40 million Americans would agree with me on 80% of what I say. 50 million Americans would agree with me on 70% of what I say. So let's take the hardcore 30 million who represent the savage nation. 13:07 If the illegal alien population is 20 to 30 million, why are they more important than the citizens who believe in borders, language, and culture, Mr. Media Guy? Next question. 13:16 Well, your polls simply don't represent the surveys and polls that we've taken. 13:21 Well, what polls have you taken? 13:23 i don't know what polls they'll come up with but they'll come up with something creative yeah they'll come up with polls that are invalid and false let them show me one other politician in america who has run a poll for six months saying should i run for the presidency who got 20 million votes the way i did let me see if obama could get 20 million people saying yes i don't think so you know let me say something else to you mr media you pay a lot of attention to this group called daily costs and yet And yet, when that idiot wrote a book, he sold 3,000 copies. How do you explain that? It's because there aren't a lot of them. 13:55 They make a lot of noise, and you make believe their noise is bigger than it is. 13:59 Okay, next question. 14:01 Why are you willing to uproot families, tear them apart, and send people back just simply because they're not documented. They're here to work hard. They're hard workers. 14:10 Because 30% of the prison population consists of illegal aliens who came here and murdered, raped, drove drunk and committed homicide, committed other crimes. Here's the fantasy. Savage says, on March 31, 2008, I'm leaving radio and I'm going to declare my candidacy for the presidency of the United States. 14:29 And I'm going to run as an independent. My platform is borders, language, and culture. If I can raise $50 million by October, I will run. If not, I'll return the money. Except that which I spent, which I don't think will be... Well, I'll spend it on advertising. That's how I intend to campaign to familiarize America with my message. I would hire a superb Hollywood team to produce the Michael Savage commercials on why we need borders secured, why English is the only language that should be spoken... 14:59 in places of business and in government and in forms and why anyone who cannot speak English cannot vote. You can't vote in 16 languages as you can in San Francisco. The reason we have a twisted city run by Twisted Sisters in San Fran Frico is because the ballot is in about eight or nine languages. That fundamentally excludes the white Anglo-Saxon male, the white Catholic male. It excludes virtually anybody who can speak English. It destroys their desire to even vote when they know that the illegal aliens has more power than they do. 15:34 So they give up and they don't vote. Consequently, we get the kind of people we get. But a lot of it is is fundamentally what goes on here is going on in America. That's the problem. 15:43 So now you're playing the media guy or woman and you're going to ask the questions you think they're going to ask to set me up. 15:50 Ron in Austin, Texas. Go ahead, please. What's the question? 15:54 Michael, you're. 15:56 Your passion and your aggressiveness is one of your strengths. I would think that to try to break you down, they're going to turn it into a weakness. And if I were one of those interviewers, I would look back to quotes that you made, or even in the beginning of the show where you called the guy a pimp from Persia and say, Mr. Savage, do you really believe that the president of the United States should be referring to another head of state as a pimp? 16:24 Yes, not only a pimp, but a homicidal maniac who should be executed. 16:30 So you also then believe that that the president of the United States should refer to supervisors, let's say, from the city of San Francisco as vermin and scum of the earth. 16:40 Yes, absolutely, because they're vermin and scum of the earth. Just look at my website, sir, and take a look at what these vermin and scum permit going on in the city in front of churches and in front of children. Women dressed up in harnesses, men being beaten with whips in the streets, women hanging in cages in front of crosses on a church. What would you call that, sir? Would you call that healthy family values? 17:04 So, Michael, my point is that they're going to try to. 17:08 No, but I'm going to give you. I understand what they're going to try and do, but I'm going to throw it back at them and give the American people a choice. If they think a woman in a metal cage who's half naked being whipped in front of a church represents America and family values, then they won't vote for me. But if they think these people should be locked up and put into a mental asylum or in a prison for violating the mores of a civilized society, then they'll vote for me. I'll give them a clear choice. Right now they have no clear choice. They have wishy-washy frauds who don't stand for anything. 17:37 I'm going to give them a choice. Either they're going to vote for family values, they're going to vote for a real America, and they're going to vote for a future where Americans can look forward to a future again, or they're going to vote for a further decline and the end of the country as we know it. It's that simple. Thanks for the call, Mr. Media. 17:57 San Antonio, Andrew, you're in the media. What are you going to ask me to try and show me to be a bad guy? Go ahead, please. 18:02 Okay, Michael, I'm even going to ask you this question in a weenie foreign correspondent accent. 18:08 Michael, you have made outrageous statements about bombing Iran. 18:13 Are you willing to retract and condemn those comments about bombing millions of peace-loving Muslims? 18:21 No, I'm not willing to retract it because the leader of Iran is a man who has said he is willing to see half of the Iranian people destroyed and killed after they wipe out all Jews in Israel. He said it would be worth his attack on Israel to see half the Iranians killed. So we have a certifiable madman roaming the planet who is saying, I'm going to get an atomic weapon, I'm going to use it, and I'm going to kill the Jews in Israel. Then if I lose half of my own countrymen, it's worth it to me. Is that a man who deserves to be a head of state, sir? 18:53 Michael, Islam is the religion of peace for millions. Only a fraction participate in tighter acts. 19:00 That's correct. That's the fraction I'm concerned about. 19:04 I'm concerned about the 1% that is 130 million Muslims who want to destroy our way of life and want to take away our freedoms and convert us to a retrograde 15th century view of the world. Yes, sir. That's exactly what I'm saying. 19:17 Then you would say like Reagan did, the bombing begins in 10 minutes. 19:22 Well, actually, I would say like Reagan did, turn on your televisions. He's no longer with us. Him and his mullahs are now in Allah land. They're all enjoying the 72 virgins. 19:33 It happened while you asked me the question, because if I tell you something right now, if I had the power, he wouldn't last one second. 19:40 Never mind coming to New York and being given Secret Service protection. I would have shot his plane out of the sky over the Atlantic Ocean and killed him and his entourage and saved the world, World War III. How do you like that? 19:53 Sir, thanks for the question. 19:55 Now go back and eat your frog's legs. 19:57 Question, Santa something. Phil, you're on the Savage Nation from Santa Claus. What's on your mind? 20:03 Well, Mr. Savage, simply put, we in the media, we really believe that you're just an entertainer. How is it that you feel that you're qualified to be president? 20:13 Well, what is it that you define qualifications by? How do you define qualifications? 20:18 So in other words, two master's degrees and a Ph.D. in best-selling books and 15 years in the media with a large audience are not qualifications unto themselves? 20:28 Well, Mr. Savage, you've never held political office. Thank God, that's exactly why I'm running. 20:34 I'm not a professional politician, which is why I might clean up Washington. and save America from the lice who are feeding off the tax base. That's exactly why I'm considering running, because I am not a politician. If you want more of the same, then vote for A, B, C, D, E, F, or G. Well, I'll go back to being a caller here. 20:54 That was a very good answer. 20:57 Yeah, I think it's a good answer, because it's an answer that's irrefutable. 21:02 Phil, of course they're going to ask me questions of the type you just posed, but they're not going to expect my answers. 21:09 See, I shouldn't even be doing this show today, Phil, because I'm giving all of the Lilliputians answers in advance. Thank you for the call. 21:17 I'm enjoying this. I'm actually enjoying this right now. Los Angeles, Don, you're the media guy. Ask me a question. 21:24 Dr. Savage, I am a student of history as you are. Are you aware of how many people have died in the name of religion? And I hear you invoking the Bible quite often on telling us how to live. 21:40 Would you bring the Bible to the White House with you? 21:43 Well, I would say that the Bible is a more important document and a more steadying document than is Karl Marx's Das Kapital, which has resulted in over 100 million deaths in the 19th century alone. If you just look at China, where Mao Zedong was infected with the virus of Marxism, 60 million Chinese were killed as a result of that. Or you look at Pol Pot. He was an ordinary professor in Cambodia. He went to Paris and studied Marxism at the University of Paris. He came back and there were 3 million human skulls lined up. Not because of religion, but because of communism. 22:14 So given a choice between communism and the Bible, I'll choose the Bible if you don't mind. 22:20 But Dr. Savage, dead is dead. And I hear you invoking the Ten Commandments. And if we did it God's way. 22:27 Why is it that when men go into battle, they pray? Can you explain that to me? How come they don't put their hand on Das Kapital before they go into battle? Why is it they pray? Why does a minister, for example, have the men kneel down and give them prayers? Why is it when a man is dying on a battlefield, they are given the last rites? Does a man not want last rites? What would he rather have, somebody come and harvest his kidney or his cornea? San Francisco. Eric, go ahead, please. 22:53 What about the children of these immigrants, President Savage? What about their health care needs? Don't you care about the children of these immigrants? 23:02 Well, I do, but since America is such an unhealthy, racist, homophobic nation, I don't think they would get good health care anyway. The third world is far superior to our world. They have indigenous, they can take agave plants and rub it on their skin. They can do herbal cures in their country. What do they need our health care for to begin with? The third world has so much to teach us that they should get their health care in the third world. 23:26 You are good. 23:28 Yeah, well, you know, there's many ways to answer a question, and one of them is a fun way. We could have fun, too. Chicago, Illinois. Now, let's go to Robert in San Diego. Robert, you're next up. You're a person in the media. Michael Savage is running for the presidency. You want to make him out to be what he isn't. What would you ask him? Go ahead, please. 23:46 Well, I think one of the lame-brained liberals would ask you, with all of Al Gore's irrefutable evidence that he's placed on the table in front of us and all of his constituents, how can you still sit there and deny global warming and that we're causing it? 23:59 Well, one, Al Gore is not a scientist. He's a huckster. Al Gore's father ran Occidental Coal Company, and Al Gore comes from a coal and oil background. He's just finding another way to skin the cat. As the Trun's meat factory used to say, we sell everything but the squeal. Al Gore first sold oil, then sold coal, and then when the oil and coal became unfashionable, he's now selling the results of using oil and coal. So Al Gore is not the issue. The issue is scientists. The fact of the matter is the scientific community is rather divided as to whether the global warming that we're experiencing is a quirk And number two, whether it's caused by human activities, whether it's anthropogenic in its origins. 24:38 There's good evidence that the global warming we're experiencing is A, extremely mild, and B, it's a result of sun activity. That's exactly the answer I would give. 24:48 You're awesome. I'd vote for you in a minute, and I got a campaign slogan. Stop the political damage. Vote for Savage. 24:55 Well, you see, I'm getting callers now who are really not interested in the political landscape because they won't vote for Giuliani. They're not going to vote for McCain because he shot himself in the toe. And they're not going to vote for Romney because he's too invisible. So they don't know what to do. They're certainly not going to vote for Obama. They're not going to vote for Hillary. They had Hillary already for eight years. They know just what's coming if she wins, God forbid. Whatever symbol you have to put on your body or whoever you pray to, get on your hands and knees and pray for that one. Incidentally, Hillary's in the Bay Area raking in millions of dollars. 25:25 And not only is she afforded Secret Service protection, which I guess she's entitled to as a U.S. senator and as a candidate. But the California Highway Patrol has to assign numerous officers to her protection, which to me is absurd. I have no idea why these people need so many bodyguards anyway. If they really care for the public good, why do they need 50 bodyguards? I'll be right back. 25:48 Savage. 25:49 Home of borders. Language. Culture. The Savage Nation. 25:55 We're fantasizing here on the program because 20 million of you have gone on to michaelsavage.com and said leave radio and run for the office of presidency. And I said, okay, fantasy world. March 31, 2008, leaving radio and I'm going to run for the office of the presidency if I can raise $50 million by October. Now you're playing the media. What would you ask me to try to upset me or paint me into what I'm not? Remember, a nationalist to the media is Hitler because they are all quasi or crypto Marxists. Some of them know it and some of them don't know it. But their message is that of Marxism or light Marxism. 26:31 That is socialism to most of you. What is socialism? State control of your life from the cradle to the grave with virtually no individual rights and no individual freedoms. That's what socialism or Marxism comes to mean. And the media is in that orientation. So they will then see me as the man with horns, and they're going to try to expose me for what I'm not. They would never give a positive spin. So I'm letting you play the devil's advocate, okay? 26:57 Let's go right now to Tampa, Florida. Kirk, go ahead, please. You're on the Savage Nation. 27:01 Mike, you seem like an angry man. Do you think you have the temperament to take on such an important role running the country? And how will you be able to work out and make changes when you're getting upset with people, when you don't agree with them? 27:18 Let me ask you something. Since when has anger become a vice? 27:24 And moreover, since when has being a milquetoast become a virtue? 27:28 And moreover, are our enemies polite, nice people? Would you say that the Persian pimp is a nice man? Would you say that the dictator of North Korea who has over a million people in slave labor camps is a nice man? Would you say that the psychotic with a pinhead in Syria is a nice man? Where on earth do you think our enemies reside? What kind of world do you think they reside in? A world of niceties or a world of absolute evil? And I think it's going to take an angry man to win the hearts and minds of the American people and bring them back from the brink of insanity and to galvanize them and unify them to understand what they are facing and what they must do in order to survive, not only individually, but as a free nation. 28:10 Yes, I think that my temperament could work for me. Moreover, let's look at some of the past presidents. The most temperamental president of the last 200 years was Abraham Lincoln. He was known to be subject to mood swings, and yet he freed the slaves. Would you say that was a good thing? I would hope so. Thank you for the call. Las Vegas. Donna, go ahead, please. You're in the media. What would you ask me to try to make me look bad? 28:33 Dr. Savage, I just wanted to ask you a question. You have written such books as Liberalism is a Mental Disorder. How do you expect to work with the Democrats in Congress having this point of view? 28:44 Very easily. I'd have them go get a cure before they come back to Congress. I'd have them understand the error of their ways, that they are not speaking for the American people or the American way. They're speaking for a quasi-Marxist way or a socialist way in virtually all of their policy positions. They are exhibiting a mental disorder. You cannot grant health care, for example, to all of the children in the United States of America, including millions of illegal aliens, without bankrupting the Treasury. Would you call that the mark of sanity, reason, or the mark of insanity or instability? 29:16 Thank you, Dr. Savage. 29:17 Thank you. In other words, how do you not answer that question? You're telling me that saying I want to give health care to all the illegal alien children and all the illegal aliens is not going to bankrupt America? Where's the money supposed to come from? So in other words, if they know that and they're saying it, then they're liars. If they don't know it, then they're foolish. And if they don't know what they're talking about, then they're insane. 29:38 What are your questions? Let us assume that Michael Savage says he's throwing in the towel, he's not doing radio, and he's going to run for office. Chicago, Greg, you're on the Savage Nation. 29:49 Yeah, Dr. Savage, I know that you've admitted on your show in your youth you were a much more liberal person with friends who might be described as hippies. How would you expect the conservative Christians of America to accept you? 30:04 Well, it's very simple. First of all, people grow up and they change if they're intelligent. If you are still espousing the views that you held when you were 19 through 21, when you're 50 or 60, then you're a person who's a case of arrested development. People are supposed to develop their ideas. That's number one. But number two, the times have changed. The positions should change with the times. We lived in a relatively different times 30 years ago, wouldn't you say? 30:34 Yes, and Michael, you know what? Amen, I'm right with you. I was the same way when I was a kid. 30:39 Well, that's right, and there's another answer to that question. Is anyone who is not a liberal in their 20s has no heart, and anyone who's still a liberal in their 50s has no mind? 30:48 Thank you. Well, what do you call a communist with three children? Answer. 30:54 A Republican. There's many different varieties of that particular thing. Cincinnati, Ohio. Terry, you're on the Savage Nation topic, please. What's on your mind? 31:02 Yes. Yes. Dr. Savage, you have made statements in the past saying that we need more patent and less patent leather. How would you plan on reigning in our military that is out of control of the murderers like Haditha massacre? 31:16 Well, first of all, there is no Haditha massacre. Virtually everyone who has been accused of this falsely, by the way, by Jack Mertha and Tim McGurk of Time magazine, based upon the statements of the enemy himself after a firefight, has been found not guilty. Every one of them has been exonerated. There was no Haditha massacre. It was created by Time magazine and Jack Mertha for political gain. So there is no out-of-control military. What we have is a handcuffed military. The exact opposite is true. What we need is a commander-in-chief who says to the generals on the ground, win that war, and I don't care how you do it. 31:48 I don't want any more men with their hands behind their back. I want this war won, and I want it won in three months, or you're going to be fired. That's my answer to that question. 31:57 But, Doctor, these are serious charges. 32:00 Well, they're serious charges, but they're all false charges. I mean, there are courts of law, and everyone who has been accused falsely of this Aditha massacre has been found not guilty. 32:11 Have you found any of them guilty, sir? And in which court have you found them guilty other than in the court of Time magazine? 32:18 Well, there will be hearings into this. 32:20 Well, there were hearings. They're ongoing. And everybody who's been told that they need a court-martial, once they go to the pre-court-martial, the Article 32, the case is thrown out. Because there is no crime. There was no crime. It was created by Tim McGurk of Time Magazine, who fed it to Jack Mertha. Jack Mertha, the great congressman, the great war hero, in his own mind, used it to attack the Marines for his own personal gain with the far left. So that's the answer to that question. The exact opposite is true, which I have to repeat myself again. This military is fighting with two hands behind their back. 32:53 We need to use a more muscular approach to defeat the enemy. We've liberated the shites in the south of Iraq. And what are they doing? They're killing our men. They're unifying with Iran. And moreover, they're throwing the Christians out of Iraq who lived in relative security in Iraq, even under Saddam Hussein. Iraqi Christians who have been there for a thousand years are being driven out by the shites. We need a much more muscular approach of our military if we're to win. And that means if it means flattening Sadr City with everybody in it, and if it means destroying everybody in the Sunni triangle with a caveat after a 72 hour time for them to get out, then so be it, because we're not going to win unless we do that. 33:34 barbed wire the Sunni Triangle barbed wire Sadr City give them a 72-hour warning after you do so let the women and children out and then flatten the areas then you'll have peace in Iraq I can do the news and I will if you have a news question I'll answer it or if you want to play 20 questions we can continue doing that I have one caller though from Portland Oregon who asked to call us on Monday apparently the great Rudy Giuliani came to Portland to a coffee house And George got to ask him a very pointed question. 34:06 George, welcome to the program. What did you ask Mr. Giuliani? 34:10 Yes, Dr. Savage. I braved the lion's den of liberalism there in Portland, went down the street. It was more of a war protest than anything. And I took my two children. As Rudy was coming up to the door of the place, he was talking to people, and I asked him, I said, Hey, Mr. Giuliani, you'd come down here, but you won't go on the radio with Michael Savage. And as soon as I said that, he had the deer in his headlights looked and just walked away from me. 34:35 Well, I'll let that speak for itself. He doesn't want 20 million votes, I suppose. If he wants to court the illegal alien vote, the homosexual vote, the radical feminist vote, and the Christian conservative vote, I guess he's got to work a little harder because he's not going to get the latter. He might get the former. 34:53 Now let's go on to the other questions, and then we'll go on to the news. Albany, New York. Jim, welcome to the Savage Nation. What's on your mind? 35:00 Here's a question, Mr. Savage. You continually reference the Bible on your show. But where do you stand on the separation of church and state? 35:08 Well, first of all, there is no document that exists which says that there should be a separation of church and state. There are documents which say that there should be a separation of a religion within the government. But there's nothing that says we should expunge religion from the people. 35:27 And in the United States of America today, we are following the protocols of the ACLU. The ACLU is anti-religious, more specifically anti-Christian. The ACLU does not want a separation of church and state. They want a separation from church and state. They want church gone completely, not only from state government, but they want it gone from the landscape. What evidence do I have when I say that they not only want the church out of state business, but they want the church gone from the landscape entirely? 35:59 The vermin in the ACLU, who are all militant communists, want the government... 36:06 Two, do the following. 36:08 They want to deny tax-exempt status to churches while they maintain it for sadomasochistic groups for the ACLU and other groups that practice the occult. 36:20 The ACLU wants to terminate all military and prison chaplaincies. They want to deny children and Christian schools access to publicly funded services. The ACLU not only wants to separate church from state, They have worked very hard to eliminate nativity scenes, crosses, and other Christian symbols from public property. The ACLU wants to prohibit voluntary Bible reading in public schools, even during free time or after classes. The ACLU wants to remove a God we trust from our coins. I am trying to tell you that the ACLU, which was founded as the Bureau for Conscientious Objectors of the American Union Against Militarism in 1917, was founded by a man named Roger Baldwin. 37:04 Roger Baldwin, the founder of the ACLU, was later a prominent leader in the Communist Party USA, CPUSA. 37:14 Several of ACLU's original executive board members were later prominent figures in the Communist Party USA, including William Foster, as I said to you, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, and Louis Badenas. But Roger Baldwin, the founder of the ACLU himself, said the following. He said, I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property. Communism is the goal. Close quote. This vermin who created the ACLU wrote many times in defense of Joseph Stalin, the murderous dictator of the Soviet Union. 37:51 Savage. 37:54 Well, thank you very much for listening to today's podcast. 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