La Mano Peluda

00:00 This episode is sponsored by Marathon Sports. Runners know the feeling. That moment when the shoe disappears, your stride feels smooth, your breathing settles in, and the run just clicks. 00:12 That's what Marathon Sports has been helping runners find for over 50 years. At Marathon Sports, their expert team uses the right fit process to match you with shoes and gear built for the way your body actually moves. No guesswork, no generic recommendations, just real guidance from people who live and breathe running. Whether you're training for your next marathon, getting back into running, or chasing a better everyday run, Marathon Sports helps you find what works for you. Visit marathonsports.com or stop into a Marathon Sports store today and experience the difference the right fit can make. 00:57 Advertencia, las opiniones de los participantes y colaboradores no corresponden necesariamente con las del programa o la empresa. Si este programa es escuchado por menores de edad, se recomienda que lo hagan en compañía de un adulto. 01:11 Porque sabemos que no siempre la solución es fácil. 01:27 because we know from the root of the specialists. 01:31 The demon is a figure that has appeared in all the cultures. It is not a Christian figure. 01:37 We will document all those experiences that no one has any logic. With Georgina Avilés and Ignacio Muñoz. 01:46 The time of putting the evidence on the mesa. Fantasmas. 01:58 Voces, apariciones, psicofonías, mitos y leyendas que rodean al mundo sobrenatural, quedarán al descubierto aquí en La Mano Peluda. 02:24 Dicen que algunas voces solo se escuchan en la oscuridad y esta es una de ellas. Bienvenido al lugar donde el misterio respira. 02:36 Las voces que escucharás esta noche pertenecen a personas reales que decidieron contar lo que les ocurrió. 02:44 No te pierdas este programa porque es la mano peluda. Yo soy Nacho Muñoz, agradecido con Dios y con ustedes porque juntos vamos a hacer un recorrido por esos temas de lo paranormal. 03:00 Síguenos a través de radioformula.com.mx y en Spotify La Mano Peluda Grupo Fórmula. 03:08 Mándanos un WhatsApp al MiedoFond 55-2193-5926. 55-2193-5926. Ahí nos puedes mandar un mensaje de voz o un mensaje de texto. 03:24 In Aika, Chihuahua, there is an interesting legend that says that after the 10.30am, no one should walk alone on the streets. The inhabitants tell that strange bombs of fire disappear from the river and overvueling the houses looking for their next victim. Para proteger a los niños, algunas familias colocan tijeras abiertas en forma de cruz debajo de la cama, creyendo que este metal puede cortar la energía de las brujas e impedirles entrar. 03:58 Superstición o antigua defensa contra algo que todavía aparece en la oscuridad. Hoy, el hack prohibido para que una bruja no entre a tu casa. 04:12 ¡Vaya! ¡Qué tema el de esta noche! Tendremos muchas emociones por delante. 04:19 Pregunta... ¿Alguna vez viste una bola de fuego desplazándose sobre un cerro o una casa? ¿En tu familia colocaban tijeras abiertas debajo de la cama? 04:33 Platica con nosotros y por supuesto te estamos esperando para que juntos hagamos de esta... Una emisión inolvidable, así que no te lo puedes perder. Te voy a repetir el Miedofon para que participes completamente en vivo ahora que puedes. 55-2193-5926 It's a WhatsApp. I'm sure you already know how to use it. 05:06 So, don't leave you with the will. Participa. That this is the night in which you took the decision to be a peludo maniac of hueso colorado. 05:20 And if you think about it, let's go with the relatos. 05:24 Mi nombre es Francisco, me llamo desde Monterrey, Nuevo León. 05:32 Son dos relatos muy cortos que me sucedieron a mí. 05:38 En particular, no son tan técnicos, tan espeluznantes, pero bueno, en parte sí, en parte no, pero creo que... 05:48 that would be good to comment. The first story was a little brief, but it was something very terrifying that really I was afraid of in this moment. 06:04 It was about the year 1998, 1999, 1997, I don't remember. I think I had about 8, 9, 7 years already. I don't remember the date, but we lived in a neighborhood here in the colonia Topo Chico. 06:28 here in Monterrey. It was a very, very, very big. 06:35 We lived in the upper part. It was a department of two quarters. 06:45 It was small, not very big. We lived with my father, my mother, my sister and I. 06:54 Fue una noche esa de las que papá no llegaba a dormir. 07:02 There was a balcony. 07:26 It was what it came to be, what it came to be the mom's bed. At that moment I was sleeping with my mom. 07:33 And the window was very big, very big. It was a big window, and there was a balcony. And in that same balcony there was a huge, huge tree. It was a huge, huge tree that practically tap all the balcony. 07:52 It was the feeling that you feel that something is not good. I slept together with my mom, my mom at that time was born. And it was the feeling that you feel that something is not good. And being a child, I knew that something was not good. The bed was stuck to the window and practically all the view was Hacía ese árbol grandote, enorme. 08:21 Tapaba todo, incluso tapaba la luz mercurial, tapaba todo. 08:25 Y había un silencio, pero silencio bárbaro, bruto. La hora no recuerdo más bien qué hora era, pero ya era tarde, ya era muy, muy tarde. Era de madrugada porque uno cuando es niño a veces se queda esperando a su papá y todas esas cosas. 08:44 I had that feeling that something was not good. And I looked at the tree, and I looked at the tree, and I looked at the tree, and I looked at the tree. And so I was working for a long time, I think about half an hour or half an hour, with the sensation, with the mala vibration, with the eyes. I felt that someone was seeing that something was there in the tree. 09:08 And of the nada, yes, of the nada, a chiflido, but a chiflido fuerte, fuerte and vivo, but a chiflido, chiflido, chiflido, of those of those who, no te imaginas, but no, no, no, no, no era un chiflido que lo haya escuchado yo abajo del departamento, que viniera de la calle, que viniera, no, era un chiflido directo del árbol hacia la ventana. 09:33 ... ... ... ... ... 09:52 So I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like. 10:16 At that moment, my mom didn't pay much attention, so my dad came later and said to me, and my dad took a cinto and was trying to run away. But no, he didn't come back to chiflar, it was only a chifrido, but it was very clear that he That was a lechuza, because it wasn't a silbido or a chiflido that had been under the street. 10:48 It was direct, direct from the tree. And I don't think it had been a person. If it had been a person that had not been able to jump, it would not have been able to jump. It would have been robbed or it would have done something. It was very easy. The tree was practically stuck to the balcony, so I suppose it was a lechuza. 11:08 And if you can pass the audio complete, I'm going to tell you briefly the other story that happened to me. It was the year 2004, my grandmother was a little sick, and I think my grandmother had had the turn nocturnal, so my grandmother asked me to take my grandmother and my aunt to take me and my aunt to take me and my aunt to take me and my aunt to take me with her. 11:37 a night to sleep and in the morning mom would pass by us to sleep. 11:44 to go to classes. So that was it. For not to make it so long, we went to the house of the grandmother, which, in fact, had a lot of history. In fact, my mother and my aunt told some very good stories of that house. It was a very paranormal house, to what I have understood. 12:09 Ese día yo me encontraba en el área de lavadero lavando los trastes. Bueno, perdón, disculpa, lavando mis zapatos para prepararme. Ya fue ya de mañana, eran alrededor de las 5 o 6 de la mañana. 12:24 Ok, vamos al corte. 12:25 El Miedojón, 55-2193-59-26. 12:35 Todo lo desconocido estará al alcance de millones de oídos aquí en La Mano Peluda. 12:47 This episode is sponsored by Marathon Sports. Runners know the feeling. That moment when the shoe disappears, your stride feels smooth, your breathing settles in, and the run just clicks. 12:59 That's what Marathon Sports has been helping runners find for over 50 years. At Marathon Sports, their expert team uses the right fit process to match you with shoes and gear built for the way your body actually moves. No guesswork, no generic recommendations, just real guidance from people who live and breathe running. Whether you're training for your next marathon, getting back into running, or chasing a better everyday run, Marathon Sports helps you find what works for you. Visit MarathonSports.com or stop into a Marathon Sports store today and experience the difference the right fit can make. 13:37 Sabiduría en las redes Porque no todo tiene explicación lógica La mano peluda 14:25 Al escuchar la primera parte de este relato, hablando de la lechuza, existen muchísimas leyendas o mitos acerca de este animal que lo ha hecho incluso ser temido. 14:41 Se dice que produce lamentos para despertar la compasión de quien lo escucha y lograr así que salga de la casa. Ahora, se recomienda que nunca debes responder a su silbido, debes evitarlo a toda costa y que si lo encuentras observando desde azoteas de un árbol, como él lo comentó, de la ventana, sería una señal de que está vigilando a alguien de la familia. Lo cierto es que hay mucho alrededor de las lechuzas which many times is not true, it's only part of the myth. 15:14 So, let's finish listening to this story. I was washing my shoes when we started listening to a lament. 15:35 A lamento muy querido. Lo empecé a escuchar así como que a lejos, a la distancia. Pero un lamento que no se compara con el lamento de un niño ni de una persona adulta. Es un lamento muy extraño. 15:51 Pero se escuchaba, se escuchaba. 15:54 Poco a poquito se iba acercando hasta donde estaba yo. O sea, hasta donde estaba yo lavando los zapatos. 16:03 Hasta que soltó el grito, pero en frente de mí, en frente de donde estaba yo, que salto, salto y pues igual, lo escuchó mi abuela, lo escuchó mi prima. 16:19 But my dad was something that I was very familiarized with that, because I tell you that that house had its history in, how do you call it, in paranormal events. Okay. That in another moment... con más tiempo les comentaré bueno pues esos fueron mis dos relatos les mando saludos de aquí desde Monterrey Nuevo León mi nombre es Francisco y pues espero que puedan transmitir este audio en vivo soy peludo maníaco desde los años 99 2000 y en adelante entonces ya tenemos bastante tiempo escuchándolos en la actualidad los escucho I listen to you here in my work and it is not common to listen to you because I am a person who is very committed with the work but I don't let them listen to you, Gina and Nacho and we'll see you next time for another episode. 17:26 Very nice, thank you very much and it was very interesting to tell us. 17:34 Por supuesto, y hablando por otra parte de las brujas y los métodos tradicionales que se han creído para protegerte de ellas, es conocido que aquí hemos platicado de las tijeras abiertas en cruz debajo de la almohada, que puede ser uno de los... 17:52 to protect them, to leave metal objects close to the entrance, this through the time and the generations, especially the Abuelitas have recommended them, or to use ajo or herbs of odor, that be a intense smell, to purify the brujas, to put water with water for the fire of the apparition, O también pronunciar el nombre de la persona afectada para evitar que su espíritu se pierda después de un susto. 18:25 ¿Tú conoces algún, por decir, método para alejar a las brujas de tu casa? Esta noche, coméntalo, te queremos escuchar y también queremos oír tus relatos. Buenas noches, ¿cómo te llamas? 18:42 Buenas noches, me gustaría platicar una historia, espero que fuera anónimo. 18:47 Claro. 18:48 Ya les había marcado, pero que fuera anónimo esta vez. 18:50 Me parece excelente, lo importante es lo que ustedes nos quieren comentar. ¿El lugar nos lo puedes decir o tampoco? 18:58 Les voy a platicar de otro lugar donde estuve algún tiempo, así que les voy a decir, es en Arkansas, un lugar que se llama Garfield. 19:07 Sí. Sí. 19:10 In that time, it was in 2018, I worked for a company where we had to clean the bodies of people who died in their house. When we were going, most of the time it was only a hole, we had to remove the alfombra, the piso, and to clean, sometimes we changed windows, windows, everything, we renovated. 19:35 And that time that they sent us to Arkansas, since the first time it was strange because they always told us that they were an old man. And that time they just told us that they were in Arkansas. And then they told us that they were in Arkansas. And then they gave me a week of vacation and I went to another place and visited a family that I had. I stayed there. 20:00 and I came to Arkansas and I came to the direction where they told us, it was like a nursery, they sell plants, they sell materials and we told us, they told us, they gave us a incorrect direction, let's go to another place and I went to the people, we reached a large house, I forgot the place, But it was a house in a mountain and there was a Lowe's front. 20:35 Any person from there would recognize it. Okay. And then when we arrived, they told us that we had to clean a certain part of the place, we had to change windows, we had to do things. And then when we arrived, we were three, I was a Guatemalan, and one, how do you remember that name? Yes. 20:59 and the nicaragüense, the patron was the one who had brought me, the one who had brought me, the one who had brought me, the one who had brought me, the one who had brought me, the one who had brought me in the refrigerator, but it was the light, it was the light, it was lost, and it was going to be limp. 21:27 That's terrible. 21:31 And then we arrived and we generated the pestilence. 21:37 Of course. And there was police, there was everything, and they told us that we had to clean it up. 21:46 Vaya. 21:48 And then, we had to clean it up, we had to clean it up, we started to clean it up, we started to clean it up, we started to clean it up. 22:00 And after that, the patron, the nicaragüense, they talked about the two or three days ago. They talked about it and they sent him and the other guatemaltecos to the other side. And I was just there in that house, arreglando. 22:13 Oh, no. 22:14 I got the stairs, windows, kitchen. We renovated completely. 22:20 Yes. 22:21 But in the middle of that, well, what I did was move from the place, because... 22:29 I had to tell you that I heard steps and they came to my room and they didn't hear me. Like if someone came and stayed standing and I was sleeping. So I changed the place and I heard the steps. In that house, I lasted three months. 22:58 No, no, no. ¿Sí? 23:26 We were several and we were listening to the pasos. I said there were people there. 23:33 But when I stayed alone in the house, I kept listening to the pasos. And that was when I gave attention to the pasos. And then, first, I only heard the pasos. But then, putting attention to the pasos, the pasos came to my room. When I began to put attention to the pasos, the pasos came to where I was. 23:57 And then I thought, if the people come here, then I'm going to change the room because the house was alone, there was no one there. Even, well, we put plastic in the room, or sometimes we cover the whole room with plastic, because there is soap and things like that, that's what they're doing, and so that it's easier to clean when we finish the room. 24:25 and then I went to every room and there I was sleeping between the plastic and the steps were coming there but they didn't move the plastic, they only heard the steps in the wood, like in the wood, not only because there was a piece of wood, only they heard someone walking, but as if they had pantufles or steps, not very strong, or so. 24:54 And you said that it wasn't normal. 24:56 The first two weeks I didn't realize, I didn't pay attention. Then I started to pay attention and it was when I noticed. 25:09 Y me movía yo de habitación. 25:11 Te voy a interrumpir porque tenemos que hacer una pausa. 25:15 Vamos a continuar con tu relato. Permíteme, no nos tardamos nada. El miedofón está listo para que tú te reportes mensaje de voz o de texto 55-2193-5926. Y si estás en cualquier parte del mundo, antepon el signo de más y el número 52. 25:34 This episode is sponsored by Marathon Sports. Runners know the feeling. That moment when the shoe disappears, your stride feels smooth, your breathing settles in, and the run just clicks. 25:46 That's what Marathon Sports has been helping runners find for over 50 years. At Marathon Sports, their expert team uses the right fit process to match you with shoes and gear built for the way your body actually moves. No guesswork, no generic recommendations, just real guidance from people who live and breathe running. Whether you're training for your next marathon, getting back into running, or chasing a better everyday run, Marathon Sports helps you find what works for you. Visit MarathonSports.com or stop into a Marathon Sports store today and experience the difference the right fit can make. 26:26 Es hora de poner al descubierto lo que nos hace temblar, correr, gritar y sudar. La mano peluda. 26:41 Tenemos tu atención. Es por eso que este espacio es perfecto para que tu producto o servicio sea conocido por millones de personas que se encuentran en este momento en su casa, su oficina o en su automóvil. 26:53 Aprovecha y anúnciate con nosotros. Somos RSS.com y tenemos un paquete justo para ti. Escribe un correo a ventas arroba RSS.com ventas arroba RSS.com y sabrás que se siente estar en boca de todos. 27:12 Solo aquellos que nada esperan del azar son dueños del destino. Sabiduría en las redes. 27:23 Porque sabemos que no siempre la solución es fácil. La mano peluda. 27:38 Continuamos. Un relato impactante desde el momento que nuestro amigo nos empieza a decir que llegaron en una casa. 27:45 Donde encontraron un cuerpo. Esto no me parece que haya sido normal. Pero nadie te dio una explicación acerca de lo que limpiaron, ¿o sí? 27:55 La verdad es que nosotros ya cuando nos tocó limpiar, nos tocó limpiar el puro refrigerador y se habían llevado el cadáver y todo eso. 28:03 Ah, ok, ok. Me estaba espantando, pero... Sí, estaba la policía. 28:07 No, sí, la policía estaba ahí, estaban los forenses, estaban todos esos ahí. Ah, oye, fue... Nos tocó sacar lo que era como... 28:14 I think so, but we told them until we were there. I didn't even know anything. 28:17 I was a worker worker. 28:30 Vaya. Y entonces, ya cuando te cambiaste de cuarto y dijiste, ahora estoy solo, estos pasos vienen, pero no hay nadie. ¿Qué pasó? ¿Las últimas noches que dormiste ahí fueron inquietantes? 28:46 Empecé a tratar de ignorarlo y no ponerle atención. Y a veces me ponía a ver videos y ya no ponía atención. Ya me quedaba más dormido, más de cansancio. Pues así ya me dormía hasta el amanecer. 29:01 Además de los pasos, ¿no percibiste algún olor? ¿No sentiste algún descenso de temperatura? ¿Algún otro elemento aparte? 29:10 No, solo los pasos me seguían, me movía yo a un cuarto y llegaban a ese cuarto los pasos. 29:17 Me movía a otro cuarto y llegaban los pasos ahí, como si alguien estuviera observándome dormir. 29:27 Pues sí, suena tétrico. Oye, qué experiencia que te ha llevado a vivir tu trabajo. 29:35 ¿Cómo pudiste aguantar tanto? 29:37 Claro, tres meses es mucho. 29:40 Pues sí, eso hago yo, la verdad, trabajo solo. Sí. Ahorita estoy en una casa que cambiamos el piso, cambiamos todo. 29:51 Ahí estoy ya dos meses y... 29:56 Soy yo y otro camarada que es el patrón y él tiene otros trabajadores y va y atiende esas cosas. 30:02 Y entonces va y me ayuda, como quien dice. Pero la mayoría de las veces estoy yo solo. 30:08 ¿Siempre es el mismo tipo de casos donde murió gente? 30:13 Sí, bueno, ya no trabajo ahí. Ya, afortunadamente, antes del virus ya abandoné ese trabajo. 30:22 Pues sí, era muy inquietante, pero ahora lo recuerdas y... Sí, ahora me dedico a reconstruir casas a la remodelación y trabajo con el patrón, pero es otra persona diferente y siempre ando solo, la verdad. 30:39 Pues qué bueno que ya estás más tranquilo, pero nos dio oportunidad de escuchar esta experiencia y te agradecemos que la hayas compartido. 30:48 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. 31:14 Y se derretían, ahora sí que estaban completas y a la hora de moverlas empezaban como gelatinas a derretir. 31:20 ¡Qué raro! 31:24 Bueno, pues... Sí, muy feo. Este tipo de trabajo que sí puede ser escalofriante. Agradecemos tu participación y te mandamos un gran abrazo. 31:35 Gracias, hasta luego. Saludos. 31:54 para quedarse con los beneficios de deshabilitados y pensiones en Sacramento, California. Wow, amigo, qué espeluznante, ¿verdad? Una mujer, una viuda negra, ¿no? Bueno, la viuda negra es la que mata a sus esposos, ¿verdad? En este caso era una mujer con el corazón negro. 32:13 Mira, aquí tenemos a Clau, desde Chile, que nos dice, yo sé que poner sal a la puerta detrás de ella para que no puedan entrar a las brujas, hablando del tema y... Pidiendo tu participación acerca de ello, bueno, pues también no todas las bolas de fuego se dice que pueden ser brujas malignas. En algunas comunidades se cree que únicamente vigilan el territorio y provocan miedo, mientras que otras serían responsables de agredir directamente a las personas. 32:46 Así es Gina, pues hablando de comunidades, Naika es una de ellas, es minera, perteneciente al municipio de Saucillo, allá en Chihuahua, que adquirió una fama bastante inquietante mucho antes de volverse conocida internacionalmente por sus cristales gigantes en narraciones populares. 33:09 There have been reportages from locals and foreigners of all types, also testimonials transmitted between generations. The population is described like a place where the apparitions of brujas would be more frequent than any other place. Some inhabitants tell us that talking about brujas in Naika is not always a fantastic story, but rather a part of the collective memory of that people. 33:42 La leyenda urbana llegó a darle el nombre de Capital Mundial de las Brujas. ¿Tú crees que aquí en México, en Naika, podamos tener la Capital Mundial de las Brujas? Aunque, obviamente, no existe una certificación y evidencia científica que sustente ese título, pero sí hay cosas perturbadoras, ¿no? Y que diferentes versiones de la historia coinciden en los mismos elementos. Cerros, minas, luces en el cielo y presencias que aparecen después del anochecer. 34:15 Vamos a seguir platicando de esto, pero ya tenemos a alguien en la línea. Buenas noches. 34:20 Hola, buenas noches. 34:22 Hola, ¿con quién tengo el gusto? 34:24 Con Horacio. 34:25 Horacio, bienvenido amigo. ¿Desde dónde nos escuchas? 34:28 Del Estado de México. 34:30 Perfecto, brother. Oye, ¿qué nos quieres compartir esta noche? 34:34 One story that one of my friends told me that I didn't see. That's what they said about the Brujas of Naika is a very interesting topic in Chihuahua. In fact, I knew about the Cuevas of the Brujas in the municipality of Saucillo. You know, you've been there. 34:59 No, no he hecho recorrido, pero igual me han platicado. Bien, ok. Que incluso hay evidencia en esas cuevas de fotografías que hay de pentagramas que han dibujado ahí, pero que son pentagramas que ya tienen muchísimos años. 35:18 Sí, sí, de antiguos rituales, ¿verdad? Que se llevaron a cabo. Sí. 35:24 No, de hecho dicen que el origen de las brujas de Naika viene desde tiempos prehispánicos y españoles, porque anteriormente ahí era un pueblo minero, en Chihuahua. 35:36 Ok. Muy bien. Bueno, la minería llegó a México después de que se asentaron los españoles, ¿eh? 35:43 O sea, ellos trajeron la minería consigo. 35:48 Sí. 35:49 Muy bien. 35:51 Y también la brujería, o sea... 35:54 That's why it's ancestral, for you to see. 35:56 Because, for example, here is a lot of the use of the herbology, of the medicine, the natural remedies, with the witchcraft. That's not exactly the same. Okay, yes, although it could seem... 36:15 Yo lo que les quiero platicar es algo que me contó un cuate que apenas me encontré hace un par de días. 36:22 Ya teníamos mucho tiempo que no nos veíamos. 36:26 Pero nosotros, yo trabajé con él hace seis años en un despacho, ahí a un lado del Teatro Insurgentes, en la Torre Prisma. Nosotros frecuentábamos un restaurante... 36:45 that is, I'm not going to say the name so that I don't want to search for anything but it is located in the area of Insurgents between the Colonia del Valle and the Nápoles and it's very famous that restaurant well, we were there and even we met all the workers and all total, I changed my job, my friend was there And, just when I found something, he told me something. 37:18 He also stopped visiting this place. 37:21 But, well, he calls his wife at that restaurant where we were before. So, he had a very strong discussion with his wife. And this woman, Nancy, Incluso yo la conocí y todo. Le aventó una copa de vino a propósito, manchándole la camisa, toda la ropa. 37:52 Ya ven que el vino tinto es muy difícil de quitarse. Sí, sí, se impregna. La manchas de la ropa. 37:58 Sí. 38:00 So this girl did it a purpose, because he had a appointment later on, in that same place. One hour later, he had a appointment with some clients. So this girl did the wrong thing to put the wine on, wearing the jacket, the shirt, the pants, everything, right? Yes, she felt bad, right? 38:30 Ah, but for this, we already knew all the workers. And there was a man named Charlie. It was not his name, but we called him Charlie. I don't remember why. And that's... And that's... He was a great man. He was a great man, but very friendly and very... 38:56 Oye Horacio, dame un segundito amigo, necesito ir a la pausa, no te vayas. 39:01 Sí. 39:02 El Miedo Phone, 55-2193-5926. Porque la verdad se esconde bajo la leyenda. 39:08 La ponemos al descubierto aquí, en La Mano Peluda. 39:28 Entre hombre y hombre no hay gran diferencia La superioridad consiste en aprovechar las lecciones de la experiencia Sabiduría en las redes Porque sabemos que no siempre la solución es fácil La mano peluda 39:52 Continuamos escuchando tus relatos y tu opinión acerca de estos datos extraños acerca de las brujas y cómo protegerte de ellas. 40:01 Así es, tenemos en la línea a nuestro amigo Horacio. ¿Estás ahí? 40:04 Sí, amigo. Perfecto. Oye, ¿qué pasó con esta chica? 40:09 Sí, les digo que teníamos ahí un... había un señor, un mesero, muy amable con todos, pero el señor ya era muy grande. My friend always said, how is it possible that there are people who are still working at that age? Well, it was for that they were enjoying and not working, right? But a person who attended very well to all of those times, that even gives you a pleasure to leave propina, right? 40:44 Yes. And this guy, well, we met him very well with him. We said, Charles, And then, well, my friend was there, this was my friend, he was there with my wife. My wife was there, and she was doing the wrong thing, to wear the shirt and the clothes, and that she could not be able to meet her at her meeting. And then, the meeting was one hour later, and... 41:19 And he didn't give up any time to go back to his house to change. And he said, well, right now, quickly, I'll go out and buy a shirt and a corbata, and the pants as well as you can. Because when you buy a dress, you're going to make a vest and you're going to take it off. Yes, you're going to do it. So this guy said, well, right now I'll buy a shirt and a corbata and you're going to take it off. 41:45 but he also had a lot of time that he didn't go to the restaurant and he was attending other workers that we didn't know. So, in that he goes to Charlie's window that is in the kitchen and goes to the bar where he goes to the commander. 42:14 Y de ahí se asoma Charlie y le chifla. Y le hace señas de bien y todo. Y pues él, como les digo, es un señor muy amable y todo. Y pues ya mi cuate fue y todo. Y le dijo Charlie, no, ahorita yo te arreglo, yo te limpio tu camisa y todo. Pásate para acá. 42:32 Y pues a mi cuate le dio pena decirle que no. Porque él ya tenía pensado salirse y comprar rápido todo, ¿no? Entonces a mi cuate dijo, no, pero ¿cómo le voy a decir que no, bro? 42:43 Este... And the man was very insistent. 42:47 And then he said, well, let's see. And he passed him to the employees. 42:53 And in the employees' employees, my friend, he quit everything, right? 42:58 He stayed in the boots and boxer in the employees' employees. And he began to talk by phone and he asked another friend, hey, consígueme, consígueme una camisa y una corbata, right? 43:14 and bring it back to here. And he said, see, what time does this guy arrive? Because we were there in Teatro Insurgents. So, well, it's not much time for Insurgents to Nápoles, right? Even in the Metrobus it's really fast, right? 43:33 Yes. 43:34 But, well, we already had time on it. And then, I would say to the Lord, no, no, no help me, right now I'll solve it. 43:44 No, pues mi cuate le dio la camisa y todo. 43:48 Pues el señor no sé cómo le haya hecho, pero regresó en menos de una hora. Sí. Y le dio ya todo bien, sin mancha. Y ustedes saben que las manchas de vino tinto son muy difíciles de quitar de la... 44:08 of anything, you know? 44:11 Yes. So, my friend had his meeting and everything, and he went and left with Charlie, because he didn't see him, he gave his clothes, and he didn't see him again. And then he went with the doubt, and he said, I'm going to give him a tip or something, you know, in gratitude. 44:31 Well, yes. 44:32 In gratitude. But he returned days later. Then he arrived at the restaurant and everything. And he appeared Charlie and so on. And he began to ask. But those who asked him how new employees were, they didn't know him. Until he asked someone, one of the employees of there. Yes. And even I told him the name of the restaurant. 45:01 And, this, I asked and they said, no, this person, I don't remember how to call him, we call him Charlie, we call him Charlie. 45:10 Okay. 45:11 And, this, total, that he had six months since he had died. 45:16 How do you think? In serious. 45:19 And then, my friend told me how he did, in less than an hour, he quit the skin from the... 45:30 of what they had given in the clothes. Yes. And the clothes, and the clothes, well, how, no? 45:39 Casi impossible, eh? 45:41 How did he do it? And in less than an hour, or, and that he returned the clothes and everything, and then my friend came back days later, because at the moment he had his reunion there, and he didn't find it, he didn't see it, he didn't see it, he didn't see it. Days later he returned, They told me that he had about 6 months ago that he was here. And he was a great guy. 46:06 That's impressive. I told him that he told me that a couple of times I found him in the juzgado. 46:13 And he told me, do you remember Charlie, the guy who attended us? I said, yes, no, no. 46:30 And he said, look, what happened to me with Nancy? 46:34 And the wife also saw it. Not only my friend, but the wife also saw it. 46:42 Wow, my impression. 46:44 The man already had six months. That was what they told me, that the man had more than six months since he had died. 46:52 ¿Qué podemos pensar al respecto de este tipo de apariciones, verdad? Donde los muertos aparentemente interactúan con los vivos. 47:03 Y uno no sabe que ya falleció. Y después la sorpresa es tremenda, mi amigo. Cuando sabes, dices, wow, hablé con un muerto. 47:13 Mi cuate se quedó impresionado de cómo le hizo para... 47:20 And then he told me, how are you going to take a tint to something white? And then without it would have been removed completely. 47:29 Yes, and then with tintoreria it comes out of that you can take off, for example, with a carburetor or something. 47:35 And then it doesn't take off, so... 47:48 Because to this guy we made a burla because we went to eat and met the corbata in the caldo of the salbondigas. 47:55 That's what I mean. 48:01 My cuate thought well, because he told me that I didn't see it as a whole, but he went through the window where he passed the command, and he didn't see it as a whole, but he went through the window, and there he passed it to the employees, not to the employees' bathroom, but to the employees' bathroom. And then my cuate already dressed up, And then the guy passed the clothes, but he didn't see it completely, just in the window. 48:38 That involves the mystery, my friend, if it was a ghost, right? And that's why it was a ghost, right? No, it was a ghost. Yes, it was a ghost. Yes, it was a ghost. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 48:54 No, because he was going to go first, first of his wife, what he did, and then he had these people waiting for him, so he didn't... At the moment he didn't focus on that, he went to the restaurant, and days later he said he didn't come back to the other day, he didn't come back, because we didn't work there, in Prisma. 49:23 I went to another side, I went to another side, but I remember this guy and what he told me about. 49:32 And he was a very nice guy. That's what he told me. Horacio, thank you very much, brother. Thank you very much for your story and thank you for your support with respect to the Brujas of Naika. And let's continue, amigo. 49:49 Sí, aquí estoy escuchando el programa. 49:53 Bien, entonces, amigo, pues cuando gustes, ya sabes el camino, ¿eh? 49:58 Vale. 49:58 Saludos. Hasta luego. 50:00 Hasta luego, buenas noches. Buenas noches. 50:03 Buenas noches. Vamos a continuar con más experiencias, pero antes vamos a una pausa y nos despedimos de las estaciones en la República Mexicana, donde solamente nos escuchan una hora. Los esperamos mañana. Y en el resto de la República del mundo entero, continuamos después de la pausa. 55-2193-5926. 50:30 Lo oculto se pone al descubierto aquí en La Mano Peluda. 50:43 Soy Azucena Uresti y te invito a mantenerte bien informado donde y cuando quieras. 50:50 Noticias, deportes y espectáculos en tu plataforma de podcast preferida. 50:56 Grupo Fórmula, abriendo la conversación. La conversación. 51:04 Después de cierto punto, el dinero no cuenta para nada. 51:08 Deja de ser la meta. El juego es lo que cuenta. Sabiduría en las redes. 51:35 En medio del desierto de Chihuahua existe un antiguo pueblo minero donde la noche no comienza cuando desaparece el sol, sino cuando el sonido de las campanas anuncia que algo estaba a punto de despertar. 51:49 Naica, ya lo platicábamos, una comunidad perteneciente al municipio de Saucillo y conocida por sus impresionantes cuevas de cristales gigantes, pero también por una reputación mucho más oscura. 52:05 Incluso hay quienes le llaman la capital de las brujas del norte de México. 52:11 According to the legend, after the 10.30am, the inhabitants must remain in their homes, close doors, windows, and avoid walking near the mines, the hills and the lake, because it is not an official touch of it, nor a prohibition document, but an adverting, transmitted through popular reports, where it says that when it comes to that hour exactly, there are waves of fire that begin to cross the sky. 52:45 And for those who grew up listening to these stories, they are not meteorites, they are not distant. It is about bruxes that abandon their homes to travel the whole body, the people. 53:00 Claro, la representación tradicional de una bruja volando sobre una escoba pues no es la imagen principal dentro de esta leyenda, obviamente ¿verdad? 53:10 In Aika, it is said that these entities can be transformed into flames of fire, or luminous spheres of yellow, orange, red, or even some have said that they are of blue. According to the stories, the lights fall from the cerfs, through the sky slowly, and sometimes they stay on the roofs. 53:35 This would distinguish from a meteorite, which we've talked a lot about. Normally it's a meteorite that crosses the firmament at a large speed and some people say that the spheres seem to observe the houses before choosing a direction. That is, it's not a chance. There are no pruebas, right? Obviously, that the luces are transformed human beings. 54:02 but we can say that they are strange phenomena, like if we refer to meteors, distant lights, vehicles, fires, as we call them, or electrical charges. Well, there are many things that we could say that are similar, but Lo más inquietante es que muchas personas han visto esto y eso ha alimentado la tradición local. 54:37 Cuando la luz cambia deliberadamente de trayectoria, se detiene o parece seguir a una persona, entonces, ¿qué dirías tú? Porque se supone que es ahí cuando deja de ser una luz cualquiera y se convierte en... Pues probablemente en una bruja. ¿Qué tal, eh? 54:56 Bueno, pues está interesante este tema. Me gusta mucho porque es algo muy frecuente y que a varias personas, yo les aseguro, que les ha causado más de una pesadilla. Vamos a seguir escuchando historias. Adelante. 55:13 Hola, Kine y Nacho. Buenas noches. Saludos. Saludos. Para los que también nos relatan terror. 55:22 A me me sucedió que escuché el llanto de la llorona. 55:28 Pero... Pero, ¿se la contamos para la otra? 55:34 Órale. 55:36 Bueno. 55:37 Saludos desde Tuxpan, Veracruz. Sí, señor. Álamo, Temapache, Veracruz. 55:43 Perfecto. 55:44 Acá hay brujas. Ah, sí, también. Que salen volando también. Pero otro día se los cuento con calma. 55:51 Ok. Órale, pues. Pues hoy hubiera quedado genial, pero no te preocupes, lo puedes hacer cuando gustes. Claro. Y pues adelante, ¿no, mi amigo? 55:59 Y también hay relatos que tú quieres contar a través del Minofon. 56:05 by the text you can do. Here we have Tim Jim Peláez, from the municipality of Marqués, Querétaro. I want to share this thing that happened to me for 9 years ago. I had a turn of despertino, I was at 1am and I was at 8am. That day when I came to my house, it was between 9am. 56:28 and I heard that the dogs in the ranch behind my house laughed a lot. In that house, at that time, I was in my house with a ranch where the owner was a Japanese woman, a senior adult girl. I knew that she was Japanese for her clothes and I saw that every morning I went to do her exercises with that style of music that Japanese do. 56:50 Regresando a mi historia, era ya de noche esa vez, cuando yo entro a mi casa y escucho a los perros del rancho de esa japonesa ladrando de una manera muy agresiva. 57:04 Lo hacían hacia la pared de mi patio como si estuvieran peleando con alguien ahí mismo, pero del otro lado de la barra. 57:11 Llegó mi asombro por la ventana de la cocina. 57:16 Es que el texto a veces cambia las letras, pero me asomo por la ventana de la cocina, no veo nada y en ese momento no tomo en cuenta lo que estaba pasando. Subo a la recámara de la parte de atrás para cambiarme, tomar una ducha y descansar. Cuando de repente veo pasar algo como una silueta de un camisón blanco que salió de la otra recama de atrás, pasando por la parte de las escaleras, pero de una manera flotando, porque no bajó normalmente, flotó, pero ese vacío... 57:53 was where the stairs were. When I came to the room to see what was that, there was nothing. When I saw the dogs, when I saw the silhouettes, I remember that they were very strong, even though they were inside the house. I really didn't know if they were really ¿Los perros? ¿O era por lo mismo que se estaba manifestando? La verdad no me dio miedo en ese momento, solo me quedé como sorprendido porque yo vivía solo en esa época. Esto sucedió en el año 2017, no había nadie más en esa casa. 58:26 De hecho, cuando llegué esa noche, lo primero que hice en cuanto escuché a los perros ladrar, Thank you very much. 58:53 De mi. 58:54 Así es. Yo también le mando un saludo. Y también a mi tía Elma. Que por cierto. Nos narró una buena historia en el Miedotón. Así que. Pues no te lo vayas a perder. 59:08 ¿Verdad? Hola. Buenas noches. 59:12 Saluda su amigo Mike. Desde Tlaxcala. Tlaxcala. 59:19 Eh. 59:20 No sé si me podrían marcar para poderles contar un relato. 59:26 Vamos a marcarte. Ah, sí, marquémosle, por favor. Dice por aquí Fernando, cerca de mi pueblo hay un rancho que se llama Tupataro, Guanajuato, y tiene fama de brujas. Está al pie de un cerro y en la cima del cerro se encuentra una cruz muy grande. Ahí fue donde vi las luces. Wow, amigo. 59:50 That's interesting. We have another call here. Let's see. Good evening. Good evening, Nacho. Hello. Who do I have the pleasure? 60:02 With Mike Jiménez, from La Scarita La Bella. 60:05 Yes, sir. Welcome, my dear Mike, right? You just sent us a message. And what are you going to share this night? Yes, well... 60:17 Well, the truth is that... Hey, like that you moved. Like that you didn't hear well. 60:25 I have two short notes. Two short notes. Adelante. This... Oh, yeah. Well, it's been a few years ago that we were here. We were going to rest when at the moment, this... Well, eh... 60:46 Acostados como a las 10 de la noche y este... Mal clarito escuché que... Que este... Bueno, se escuchó el quejido del muerto. De hecho, yo lo he escuchado y se oye muy macabro. 60:59 Sí, claro que sí. Se ponen todos espeluznados. 61:05 Sí, yo cuando, bueno, estaba acostado de repente cuando... Sí, bien que escucho como hizo. 61:11 Ah, pero así. Y ya luego los perros empezaron a aullar. 61:16 And then also, here you can hear a lot from Tlaxcala. Ah, yes? Yes, a lot, you can hear a lot. And at the 2 in the morning you start to hear the crying. Okay. You can hear a lot of noise. 61:40 Oye, ¿y hay alguna tendencia que presagie que se va a oír? Es decir, cuando llueve, cuando hay luna llena, ¿hay algo que nos pueda avisar? 61:50 Pues de hecho, más cuando llueve es cuando más se escucha. Ok. Y sí, pues el lamento es muy, muy, muy, muy... Esplendante. Sí, muy, muy esplendante. 62:08 Oye, y cuando se ha escuchado ese llanto del muerto, ese canto del muerto que también le llaman, ¿no sabes o no te has fijado si ha habido decesos ahí en la colonia? Pero ¿sabes qué? Esto me lo vas a responder ahorita regresando de la pausa porque tenemos que ir al corte, amigo. No te vayas. Aguántame tantito, ¿sí? 62:26 El Miedofon, 55-2193-59-26. 62:35 Sabiduría en las redes. Sabiduría en las redes. 63:02 Porque conocemos de raíz a los especialistas. La mano peluda. 63:38 Continuamos relatos y experiencias de México para el mundo. 63:42 Así es, tenemos en la línea. Mike, ¿estás ahí? 63:46 Creo que sí, Nachito, estamos aquí. 63:48 Muy bien. Oye, te preguntaba antes del corte si cuando han escuchado esto ha habido decesos ahí en la colonia o en la comunidad. 64:00 Well, in fact, it's a village here in Tlaxcala. 64:04 It's called San Bartolomé. Wow, it's called the village. Well, in fact, I live where there is a... I'm going to tell you about a barranca and barranquilla. 64:16 Ajá. They call it a mutrero. 64:18 Ok. Ajá, and it's there where, in the barranquilla, it's where I heard... Well, I heard this. That's where... 64:29 but he will not have much of the day, he will have like three months that I heard. And, well, I mean, I mean, it sounds very, very dangerous. Also, I don't know if you can find another moment. 64:42 Yes, of course. 64:45 Oh, this is one of my brothers. Well, in fact, he has a few years old when he was alone. He said that he came from here. 64:56 from another village, I went to here, and it was like 2 or 3 in the morning. I don't know if you know a lake called Mahajj, where the lake is coming from. I came to there, and I came to... 65:17 ... ... ... ... ... 65:41 And that was what happened to my brother. 65:45 But fortunately, it was not grave, right? 65:49 No, Nachito, because... Oh, he's losing his name. 65:55 Okay. 65:56 Very good. Very good. Very good, Mike. I don't know if you want to add something else. 66:12 Well, no, I don't know how to explain, or I can tell you what could happen. There was a friend of mine, and one of his family, who gave him the era that they donated to the rosary for the novenary, and I don't know if I could ask him, Master Sohan, what consequences would have, or would there be a consequence or something like that? 66:45 Okay. 66:46 Consecuencias de llevarse las ceras. 66:48 Las ceras, yes, las veladoras, right? 66:51 Ah, yes, yes, Gina. O sea, that's when they don't, when they fallece, llevan ceras, so. And that person took them, supposedly, to sell them. Well, I supposedly think that it's not good, but I don't know. 67:06 Bueno, le preguntaremos al maestro Soham, así que en su próxima intervención me gustaría que escucharas la respuesta. 67:15 Sí, bueno, pues a veces le podían hacer esa pregunta y pues me da mucho gusto saber. Y pues gracias, Gini y Nacho, por su paciencia. Y la verdad me da mucho gusto escucharlos. De hecho, yo tengo años, bueno, pues también que... 67:36 This is the Mano Peluda, 30 years old, I lost for a while, but again, we are here at the order, Gina and Nacho. 67:43 Very well, my friend, I have a nice night. Thanks, Nachito. 67:46 Thanks, Gina. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. 67:52 Thank you very much. 67:53 Thank you very much, my friend. And, well, look, interesting the question for the maestro. I have to ask you a curious question for the answer. 68:03 Yes, so we are going to guard and when he is present, of course, we are going to send him, we are going to send him to his point of view. Oye, Naika has been, for many generations, a community, we know, related to the mining. Bajo su tierra existen cavernas, tunnels, extreme temperatures and enormous formations of selenita that seem to belong to another planet. Literally, they are very strange. 68:33 This underground landscape, which is also dangerous and difficult to explore, creates a perfect environment for the birthplace of stories that live within the mountains. There, for example, it says that some of these entities emerge from the mines, converted into luminous spheres. And yes, from a distance, they appear as if they were llamaradas suspended in the air, Y se dice que pueden desplazarse contra el viento, detenerse sobre una vivienda o cambiar repentinamente de dirección, como si estuvieran buscando a alguien. 69:10 Ya con el paso del tiempo, esto se convirtió como en parte de la identidad del pueblo. Incluso en la entrada de Naika se colocaron representaciones de dos figuras, de un minero y de una bruja. 69:26 So, the work on the earth and the mystery around her are united forever. You arrive at Naika and you see these two figures. 69:36 Yes, of course, Gina. Some modern versions of the legend advierten that no one should walk only by Naika after approximately 10 o'clock in the morning, 10 o'clock. 69:50 Other narratives don't show an exact hour, but the moment when the streets are empty, no matter the hour, and the lights of the houses begin to apagarse. 70:05 The hour works symbolically, we know, like a border. Before her, the people belong to their inhabitants, and then... 70:16 los cerros, las minas y las calles quedarían bajo el dominio de las presencias nocturnas y estamos hablando de brujas. Esta clase de advertencia aparece frecuentemente en las tradiciones y el folclore de Naika y establecer una hora concreta obviamente pondría con mayor tensión a todos los habitantes y las personas que visitan. Entonces el asunto es de que Sí, vas a estar por ahí de noche, más vale que lo hagas con mucha precaución. 70:51 Ok, vamos a escuchar más audios. Adelante. 70:57 Hola Gina, Nacho, buena noche. Hola. Hablo de aquí en el estado. Mi nombre es Irene. 71:04 Bien, Irene. 71:04 Yo les voy a contar de, bueno, varias cosas que nos sucedieron cuando estábamos chicos. 71:10 Sí. 71:11 Una de ellas es mi hermano. Siempre la bruja lo siguió desde que nació. 71:17 Sí. 71:19 Mi mamá no podía dormir, nos espantaban. Se escuchaba como aleteaba un pájaro grande. Hasta que, pues sí, mi mamá fue y le dejó a mi abuelita, pues a mi hermano, porque nosotros ya no podíamos... 71:36 Ya no podíamos... 71:39 to sleep, to be at ease, us like the other children. He left it and left it for a year. Until then he went to follow the witch. My grandmother had a big window, so they said that from there they saw it like a little slug. It was up there, like a little slug. At that time, my uncle had gone to the academy. 72:08 And since they told me, my uncle went and shot him, and the bird was gone. But he was always there. Until one day my grandmother opened the window and began to cry, that he would leave the child that he wanted. Well, my brother left there until the age of... 72:33 They gave him three years. 72:35 Then he came to here, but he continued the same thing. They always followed him, followed him. We frightened him. I heard how dogs were running. We never knew who he was, but on the last few times he followed him, my brother followed him at 21 years. So a neighbor died. 73:01 And my parents were there in the Rosario. And my brother touched the door of my room and said, you know what, the witch is here. And how is the witch? And I said to my brother, come here. So I shared my room with another brother. My brother went to my bed and stayed with him. But it was so cold, but cold and cold. 73:28 So we were watching a movie. My sister, I didn't realize it. She won the dream, too, to me. But when I won the dream, I felt like someone fell into the bed, but so heavy. So I felt like my feet were holding me, but it was a very cold hand. My brother, I heard, in dreams, that he was crying. 73:57 Well, I started to pray and as possible I moved. So he raised my foot, I shot my foot, I shot that thing, I don't know what it was. It was heard, because it was heard the hit. So quickly I caught the light. My sister woke up from the sound of the hit. My brother woke up and went to the corner. And my brother... 74:23 Pues se quedó ahí y nosotros buscando qué era, qué era, no, pues nada, pero se escuchó el golpe. 74:29 Ok, vamos al cortillín. El Miedo Fon, 55-2193-5926. 74:39 Las historias tienen muchas formas de contarse, pero solo una de comprobarse. Aquí en La Mano Peluda. 74:56 RSS.com. Hacer podcast de manera fácil. 75:26 De todos es errar. Solo del necio, preservar en el error. 75:30 Sabiduría en las redes. 75:37 Porque distinguimos al mundo sobrenatural. La mano peluda. 75:48 We're going to finish listening to this story. 75:50 When someone falls out of the bed, nothing, nothing. We had our scandal here, my other sisters didn't hear anything. We didn't have anything, a fork or something. My sister said to me, you have to leave, you have to be afraid. My brother was in a corner. 76:13 We said, well, what? Well, with the shoes. We said, well, with the helmet. If we see something, we hit it. We went out, we were looking for nothing, nothing, nothing. 76:26 My parents arrived at like 2 in the morning. My brother was on the side, he didn't heat up. 76:36 We already said to my parents, no, no, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. So my mom believed us. Why? Because we always suffer from that. 76:48 And I remember one that is a very strong occasion of my brother. He always liked football. So my brother was training and I got the habit. At that time, he was 12 years old. He would always sleep for 1 or 2 hours, and he would go to bed. After 12, he would go to bed at 12 at night, he would go to bed, he would go to bed. So in one of those occasions, My brother, before we had a curtain, it was not cancer, so he said that he thought that one of my sisters was going to scare him, he was playing. 77:25 He said, come on, I'm going to bed, come on, come on. Well, nothing, he didn't answer. So he said that he hit him, he hit him with his arm, he hit him, he hit him, the curtain fell, the light goes, but my brother said that he formed the silhouette, of the witch and the witch that came out of the boxbone. So we heard what my brother cried. It was the light, I said the curtain, the silhouette is made, and my brother cried. 77:58 We quickly went out to see everything. 78:08 So my brother was thrown away, but he was tired. So when I was in the adolescence, I saw that one would tap and everything. My brother was thrown away because he was thrown away in the patio. We took it, we raised it, we raised it, it was not purple, the eyes didn't have color. 78:30 Pálido, ¿no? Tiene un color muy feo. Mi hermano duró horas en hablar porque no podía hablar. 78:37 Entonces ya cuando pudo hablar nos dijo que la bruja, nosotros fuimos a buscar, todas mis hermanas, mi mamá, prendimos el sirio pascual, fuimos a buscar y nada, no había nada. La cortina estaba, sí, efectivamente estaba tirada. 78:52 No, ya no quiso prender el foco del baño. Sí. Pero al otro día mi hermano todo su antebrazo lo tenía este morado, se le hizo morado. 79:02 Feo. Entonces dice que al momento de pegar que era como una roca que le había pegado. Y desde ahí a mi hermano se le quitó la costumbre de irse a bañar después de las 12. Llegaba de entrenar. 79:18 He was bathed quickly and he was going to eat. 79:22 But that's the story that we always had. Yes, there were the witches. Yes, there were the witches. Yes, they were seen. Then we remember from far away, when it was not so populated here, they were seen like little balls, but we thought that they were... I don't know, we thought that they were like fire, because they didn't move, and we didn't know that at that time. 79:52 We heard all the noise, everything we had to cry, but my parents never heard anything. They were always sleeping. And obviously my mom did everything they told me when my mom gave light. 80:08 My mother already baptized him for the same thing, but they were always very insistent with my brother. More than all, my mother says, and yes, with my brother or with my brother. Now they continue to scare him, but not like that then. 80:27 Well, that's my anecdote. It's a little short, I don't remember, but there are many stories that we have, that we have always scared us, including now that we are adults, we always scared us. Thanks, good night, descanses. Thanks, friend, thanks for your story, and what a stress with your brother, right? 80:49 That was the witch, what happened? 80:58 But look, he told me about learning. No, I'm not going to bed anymore. 81:05 and so many stories that we have known, so as we have heard of it, it is that they exist and they are not only those who make some work of brujería, a person that we know, but their different ways of presenting themselves. 81:22 Exactly. Well, look at this story so good and very ad hoc, with what we are talking about right now. 81:32 Because precisely, one of the things that we have mentioned with this type of experience is that putting scissors on top of the bed is not an exclusive costume of Nike. 81:47 In different regions of Mexico and Latin America, they believe that scissors in form of cross can protect a person while sleeping. You would say, well, how is this? Well, the object has two powerful symbols. 82:02 El primero es la cruz relacionada con la protección religiosa y el segundo es la capacidad de las tijeras para cortar, separar o interrumpir algo, un material o lo que sea y desde la lógica de la superstición las hojas metálicas No solamente cortan materia, sino que también podrían cortar maleficios, pesadillas, envidias, brujerías o algunos vínculos espirituales. 82:33 Es lo que pudiéramos nosotros tener como una relación con todo esto de las tijeras. No existe una evidencia científica, por supuesto, de que unas tijeras abiertas detengan energías. Obvio no. Y los... that if it is more common or we have that belief, at least what they have said here, is that during generations they have used this method because it is a everyday object and it is easy to achieve and it has a great significance according to what we already talked about. 83:09 Yes, and talking about fire, Nacho, it is not that it is ... ... ... ... ... 83:36 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 84:02 And they are already admitting, Nacho, that this is possible, a witch with form of fire. And there are some interpretations that say that they transform in an animal, that they manifest as a sphere brillant, that also recorrect that territory over the night. 84:21 That's it. Well, let's continue to talk about this and of course, listen to stories. 84:27 Buenas noches, mi nombre es Raimundo Pérez, el relato que voy a contar me sucedió hace unos 10 años, esto me pasó en la casa donde vivo actualmente, pero bueno, lo que me aconteció es que... It was about the 1 or the 20th of the morning when I was able to sleep. For this, I slept in the upper part. There is a staircase that comes to that part and there is a room. After the room, the room was the room where I slept. The house, the upper part, was not covered. 85:07 The animals, the cats, from other houses, they often pass through that space, that is discovered that the animals are there without any problem. They have many windows. 85:27 La luz de la calle entra sin ningún problema al cuarto. Pues yo me disponía a dormir. Era como aproximadamente una y veinte, una y media de la mañana. 85:36 Me quedé pensando una que otra cosa. 85:40 Y de repente empiezo a escuchar ruidos afuera del cuarto, así como que raspaban. 85:46 or that played with pieces of pieces for wear, I assumed that there could be some animal of these that then pass and then the attention of the pieces, they started to play, you know, as I mentioned, there are many windows, I said, well, the animal is in the bottom and it is not able to see, you know, Ahorita pasa, ¿no? No tiene que pasar a mayores. Y pues empezó a ser un poco incómodo porque yo ya me quería dormir. 86:16 Pues ya abrí la ventana, ya no vi nada. Sí vi una que otra pinza, pero no en el piso, sino sobre la marquesina de la ventana. 86:26 Se me hizo un poco raro porque nunca vi la sombra del animal. 86:31 Y dije, bueno, ya... 86:33 Asumí que se había asustado y que se había ido el gato o lo que fuera. Y pues cerré la ventana y me volví a acostar, ¿no? 86:40 Nuevamente ya me estaba intentando dormir y vuelve a suceder. 86:46 Y pues cuando vuelve a suceder yo me empiezo a sentir como... 86:51 It was a little irritable. I was like, I want to sleep. And these gatos and they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like. 87:16 and I opened the window again, I didn't see anything, obviously when I woke up and the sound stopped listening to me, there was no pinzas, and I said, well, what's wrong? I said, well, I don't want to know anything, the cat left, it was already gone, it was already going to cost me, and I said, And, well, the door of that door is a door that has a large crystal, and the part of the bottom is like metal. What would be that? After 10, 15 minutes, they start to break down the door. 87:50 But that sound is kind of irritating for the ears, that they hear that they break down and they bother you, right? 87:56 When this happens, I started feeling uncomfortable because I really didn't know what was going on. I began to change the idea that I could be a cat, because the cats that go to the house or that go out there, they often... 88:16 and they're scared immediately with the noise. I went up, I didn't open the window, I only opened the window, I didn't see anything. I was already starting to change my idea of being an animal, a cat or something like that. I'm back to sleep. 88:36 The truth is, I didn't know how much time it took, but the feeling was different. It was not like a cat, like a cat, or an enojo, like a victim of an animal. It was different, it was like... 88:55 or, I don't know what's going on, or why is this sound like this, and so. Then I woke up again, and again. When I was trying to sleep, of those that you feel that the dream is going on, the noise started to wake up again. I was like, oh yeah, this is not normal, this is not good, I don't know what's going on. 89:22 The last time the sound was very strong, I didn't feel that strength to say, I'm going to open the window and see what it is, and the goma. No, the truth is, it was like, I don't know what it is, I don't feel calm about being able to see what it is. 89:46 What do you do? The situation was a bit complicated. I didn't know what was going on. It was strange. There had been previous situations in that house, things that happened. Not only to me, but even to an albañil who came to work at the house. At some point he happened something. 90:10 And, I don't know, I said, what's going on? What's going on? The noise was more pleasant. There were arabs around the door. And the only thing that happened was to take the phone and mark it at the house. At the bottom, one of my brothers slept, my mom slept. I called my brother and said, hey, you know what's going on? 90:37 Sal al patio y asómate hacia mi cuarto a ver qué ves. Y él me dice, ¿pero por qué? Le digo, tú nada más hazlo, o sea, rápido así. Salió rápido a asomarse. Yo colgué. Ya cuando yo sabía que él estaba ahí, pues ya el sonido cesó totalmente. Agarro y pues abro la puerta. Le digo, ¿qué pasó? Le digo, pues es que... Me dice, es que yo vi como algo... 91:01 No se, dice, como un animal, como una cosa así negra, chiquita, que se aventó a la otra casa. Pero una bola, dice, no sé qué era. Le digo, ¿era el gato o era un gato? Me dice, no, no era un gato. Dice, era algo como, no sé, dice, como una figura así negra, pequeña, que se aventó a la casa de al lado, ¿no? Dice, lo único que alcancé a distinguir era que era negro y que era una figura como, que era... 91:30 I was like a child of about 2 or 3 years old. It was the only thing I could see. I didn't see any more. I started to explain to them. I told them what had happened. It was very strange. My relatives were like, what's wrong? If it's true or not. 91:58 Well, I tried to sleep, but with the discomfort of what had happened, it didn't continue to happen during the night. I didn't feel comfortable sleeping in that room. 92:12 And then the other day, just because of curiosity, I was watching the call identifier, and the call was registered exactly in point, without a minute or a minute, the call that I would do to the house to see what it was, at the 3am. I had heard that that time was like an hour where there were strange things happened, and then there was my story, and then after that, it was difficult to sleep there. 92:42 Then another family stayed in that room, and things happened. Then we got to do a clean house, with a good water and so on. Fortunately, there were certain things that happened later. Some were uncomfortable, some were even funny, because we didn't know how to explain it. 93:10 and then there is my story. It's really surprising when they say that they grab the videos with their phone, things strange. When you're living it, you don't even think of taking the phone and recording it. At least in my case, it was more than to give an explanation of what happened. 93:36 les mando un saludo a todos y pues espero que les haya gustado mi relato, buena noche gracias mi amigo, si muy buen relato y fíjate que eso que comentas también si tiene que ver porque obviamente alguien que no está acostumbrado a escuchar historias y pues se le va a dificultar siempre el asunto este de grabar pero los que ya estamos acostumbrados no sé, por lo menos a mi me pasa When I hear it, I think I can record it. 94:07 I don't know if someone else has the same feeling that I have. But it's also true. 94:13 In that moment, that only are seconds, when you get 20 seconds and you get out of the phone, it's already happened. That's what you want to record. That's where the importance of when someone captures some evidence. 94:29 So it's. Let's go with an audio more. Let's go ahead. 94:34 Noche, soy Zarely, del DF. Hola. Como hoy día les he mencionado, cuando mi madre murió, yo la lloraba mucho y le pedía que me llevara con ella. Yo no hice ninguna invocación, ni ningún pacto, ni nada. 94:50 But I came to see her two times, basically, like when I was alive. And it gave me so much fear that the only thing I would do was go to my aunt's house, running away, and I would never ask her to come again. I know that she is with me, because when I'm sick, La siento que se siente en mi cama. Yo tengo la ventaja de saber si es algo bueno o es algo malo. 95:21 Y cuando siento que es ella, a mí no me da nada de miedo. Porque generalmente cuando estoy enferma es cuando ella se siente en mi cama. Gracias. 95:31 Ok, amiga, mira, pues sí, no es que no es lo mismo decirlo que ya vivirlo, ¿verdad? 95:37 Porque además no tienen la certeza que vaya a ser la persona que tú quieres. 95:41 Exacto, ese es el punto yo creo, ese es el punto precisamente, Gina. Fíjate que dentro de numerosas creencias populares el sueño no es solamente lo que conocemos como un descanso, ¿no? 95:56 Más bien es un estado durante el cual la persona, entre comillas, queda indefensa. ¿Por qué? Pues porque se pierde la conciencia de lo que ocurre alrededor de uno. Y supuestamente puede ser... 96:11 alcanzada la persona por influencias que no percibiría mientras estás despierto. Esto me suena un tanto lógico, ¿verdad? Por esa razón, muchas protecciones contra brujas se colocan debajo de la cama o de la almohada o cerca de la cabecera. El objetivo es crear una barrera exactamente en el lugar donde el durmiente queda más vulnerable. ¿Tú qué piensas? A ver. 96:41 Claro, es lo importante de tener tu... ¿Protección? 96:47 Sí, son diferentes. También sé de una que... ¿Te acuerdas cuando fuimos a un pueblo de Querétaro? 96:54 Un Cadereyta. 96:55 Que nos decían que poner el lazo, este lazo en el que se tiende la ropa, rodear, el mecate, exacto, en el mecate, rodear toda la casa... 97:11 Y de esta manera decían que es una protección que se tiene contra las brujas. 97:16 Así es Gina. Pues mira, hemos llegado al final de esta emisión. Nos despedimos. 97:22 Agradecemos como cada noche que estés aquí con nosotros escuchando relatos. Queremos que sigas participando y tenemos una cita en nuestra próxima emisión. Que descanses, que tengas excelente noche. Que Dios te bendiga. Soy Gina Avilés. 97:37 Hasta luego, Gina. Yo también me despido. Soy Nacho Muñoz. Agradecido con Dios y con ustedes porque juntos escuchamos buenas historias. Que tengan la mejor de las noches. Descansen. Y como decimos aquí, cabod. 97:59 El programa se termina, pero la investigación continúa aquí en La Mano Peluda. 98:15 Esta fue una producción de Grupo Formula.